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Fresh from the Bovington tank museum I was intrigued by the British multi turret tank there, didn't the Russians(?) design one too?As more and more tanks now seem to be used in low intensity urban...

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Just about everybody putzed around with multi-turreted tanks in the 1920s and 1930s. They all decided that they were a bad idea. The problem with "sweeping through the streets suppressing the bad...

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Besides emc's very valid point even if you've got the ability to fire at whatever you fancy "sweeping through the streets suppressing the bad guys" is going to use an awful lot of ammunition awful...

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That said, wider arcs for your MGs isn't a bad idea but it was found that mini turrets cost and weighed more than they were worth, note that most modern MBT's cupola mounted MG can be fired from...

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I was thinking of tanks purely for modern anti terrorist warfare with a very limited role outside rural areas. Defence against being shot at from tower blocks etc. without destroying them. With more...

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A big problem with muliturrets is that it overwhelms the commanders ability to control what is going on. He has to not only control the driver, but also the turret gunners, the radio and coordinate...

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That's much the sort of thing I was thinking of. Heavy armour but multiple targeting.

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You might see something like an integrated CROWS system - CROWS can prioritise targets and I believe the engagements can be handed off to autonomous control - ie, the vehicle crew make exec decisions...

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BMPT doesn't need a medium gun, the missiles have a thermobaric warhead option which will deal with fortifications just fine. When I first heard of this veh it was presented as a city fighting device...

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Absolutely, completely counter productive in a counter insurgency role of course. Real warfighting only and even then you'd like to show a human face to the civilians about, they know things you could...

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I get the feeling the Russians aren't often the good guys in their urban combats so the human face might matter less to them.

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Enforcing your will with your strength lasts as long as any one of those two. Winning the battles is only the first stage, eventually, all going well, you find you are policing the place and after a...

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The concept of the BMPT in urban combat looks a bit odd to me; it gives supporting ATGW and smallish calibre automatic fire the same protection as the tanks they will support, fine. What about the...

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Aha, BTR-T.

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Throd wrote:I get the feeling the Russians aren't often the good guys in their urban combats so the human face might matter less to them.Given some of the Russian Army's post-USSR history, it's...

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emc wrote:Throd wrote:I get the feeling the Russians aren't often the good guys in their urban combats so the human face might matter less to them.Given some of the Russian Army's post-USSR history,...

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Yes, they saved themselves from the Viking by becoming serfs, like many did. Then, in the true spirit of "if it ain't broke" maintained serfdom up until IIRC 1867. I think it would be fair to say the...

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Serfdom in Russia came a long time after the Kingdom of the Rus, in fact it post dates Peter the Great. The Russians school of hard knocks came fighting the Golden Horde, the Crimean Khanate, and the...

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Not to mention the Teutonic Knights in 1242, and again in the early 1300s.

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Just to repeat, being able to talk to civpop isn't nicey nicey PC bull. Note the effect in '44; 1st Airborne Div planned on holding for two days against fairly light opposition but actually held for...

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